International Vocal Competition (IVC) 's-Hertogenbosch Secretary from the early 1960's until the late 1980's Eugène Pannebakker recalls the ins and outs of the Juries over the decades, and defends some disputed choices they continued to make for technical skills over volume alone, with Elly Ameling being a fine example of a great Lieder career. Filmed on location at Pannebakker's residence in 's-Hertogenbosch. If interviewer René Seghers speaks a little loud now and then, this was done 'at request.' Interview date: March 16, 2014. More about Eugéne Pannebakker's role in the IVC can be found through the search button at 401ivca.com